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Mac Dominick of Cutting Edge Ministries responsed to Abe Atta's article Exodus of the Palestinians. Below are two responses to Mac Dominick by Jim Eighmey and Marvin Wingfield.


Mac Dominick of Cutting Edge Ministries wrote in response to Abe Atta's article Exodus of the Palestinians:

Dear Abe,

Please correct me if I am wrong, but the nation of Israel NEVER exiled or persecuted any Palestinian Christians. Those who abandoned "Palestine" did so of their own volition or stupidity, thinking that Israel was going to be annihilated in a matter of days, and they would thus reclaim their abandoned property. We have many documented eyewitness accounts of this from both sides of the issue. Furthermore, this was done at the urging of the local media, and any Christian (Palestinian or otherwise) who feels that they should not support Israel are simply neglecting the commands of the Word of God, and aligning themselves with those who themselves will become as "stubble before the fire".

Mac Dominick
Cutting Edge Ministries


Two responses to Mac Dominick:

1- Response 1: from Jim Eighmey

Dear Mac,

Your query was forwarded to me by Aba Ata with a request to respond. Others, I am sure, will bombard you with analysis of scripture, Christological exegesis, and much else I am not qualified to present, let alone defend. However I would only ask for a brief moment of your time to propose a couple of points to fairly consider.

Let us strip away the endless midrash of historical explanations and get to the central issue.

If grace and charity is the example of Christ, even when he was with the Gentiles or those far outside the fold, then how do we condone persecution and oppression of any person even if that oppression was (and it wasn't in this case) furthered by choice? What sin or suffering doesn't involve some choice, even if it is unknowing? Did the choice of Jews to be Jews and to live in Poland mean they deserved the Holocaust? Did family who happened to be Cambodian deserve to be hauled to the killing fields? What about the following generations and their choices? This line of thinking simply transfers the moral onus onto those who are defenseless or who deserve our compassion. No greater hubris can I imagine than for us to set ourselves in the place of God, to make the determination of who and what deserves love or salvation, to usurp the role of Jesus Christ in judgement and to somehow view this paltry speck of dust populated by tiny sentient primates as the thing which determines God's vision. Only the father knows the time. Not me, not the Zionists, not even Christ, and certainly not you.

But, even if we were to accept the general thesis that somehow the latest round in the historical quagmire which is the "Holy Land" has something to do with the end-times, what is it to any of us? What kind of twisted person is willing to consciously use an entire nation of people as a sacrifice for their own salvation? Who would use such an idea to persecute someone or worse, to supposedly act as their friends and to promote their agenda when they truly believe in their heart that most of them will be wiped out and sent into the void (at best)? In this sense we could be referring to either the Jews or the Palestinians. Either way it is cynicism at its worst. This is the ultimate expression of selfish narcissism, the ultimate placement of one's own well-being over that of others, the blasphemy of all blasphemies. It is, in a sense, another crucifixion. Indeed, even if I were remotely inclined to believe all this nonsense (and I certainly am not) it would seem to me that the final cut is being made but certainly not in the direction you might suppose.

We cannot force the world into a particular relationship with the divine. Hate and persecution IS the human condition. That is the deterministic, the necessary, the socio-biological response, the curse, the eternal us vs. them which Judaism and Christianity have wrestled with for 3000 years. It is simply tribalism, and God is not a member of a tribe. By acting in this way you are not promoting the end of THE world, but the end of YOUR world and several other people's worlds along with it. It is just another chapter of suffering which has been repeated over and over and over again in the name of so many gods in so many places.

Finally, as an archaeologist I think I can say with some authority that the people of Palestine (Jews and Arabs alike) have maintained their continuous presence in that land despite invasions, wars, persecution, genocide, deportations, and oppression without pause for many millennia. The ancient people who identified themselves as Judah did not wipe out the indigenous populations of Palestine because many of them were themselves indigenous to Palestine. So it remains today. The simplistic notions of anthropology, history, and prehistory which many people propose when speaking about Israel usually reflect a deep methodological and subjective ignorance of these fields of knowledge. In terms of the substance of your claims about Zionism, it would seem that the history of the movement is well documented. I have copied a recent article below which you might find informative and succinct. It is not my place to criticize the theological ideal of Israel or its meaning in Judaism and Christianity. The reality of it, however, is another matter.

Peace,

Jim Eighmey


2- Response #2

From: Marvin Wingfield

Mr. Dominick:

Mr. Ata asked that I respond to your note.

1) Why did the Palestinians leave their homes in 1948? A new generation of Israeli historians has disproved the Israeli claims that they left voluntarily or because of Arab radio broadcasts urging them to leave. There are official records of such broadcasts which have been studied by scholars and found to contain no such urging. The actual reasons, as you might expect, are varied. People act out of different kinds of motives. Some were forced out at gunpoint by Jewish military forces. Some fled in fear as news spread atrocities and incidents of mass murder in Palestinian villages committed by Jewish extremist forces, e.g. the village of Deir Yassin where over 100 were murdered and bodies stuffed down a well. Perhaps some fled to escape areas of military operations. Much of this has been officially acknowledged by the Israelis. Under the Labor government, the history curriculum in the schools was revised to take account of the findings of the historians, which in many ways matches and validates the stories which Palestinians have told about their experience for decades.

No matter why Palestinians left , they did not give up their natural right to their homes, land and country. This is attested in international law, common decency, and in common human decency. The mistreatment of Palestinian Christians is mostly because of their nationality, not their theology. But Israeli pressure and policies have resulted in the erosion of the Christian community, so that it is in danger of disappearing. This was the community founded by Jesus and the Apostles, now increasingly scattered in exile around the world, being destroyed as a community.

For the story of Palestinian Christians within Israel, I suggest the books of Fr. Elias Chakour, Blood Brothers and We Belong to the Land.

If you are serious about studying what happened in 1948, I will look for a bibliography of the new historians. One book you might look at is by Simha Flaphan. I believe the title is The Birth of Israel: Myths and Realities.

2) So what about divine right and promises? If you are a New Testament Christian, you might recognize that the Old Testament is to be interpreted as "types" and as foreshadowing of the truth revealed in and through Jesus. The land, the kingdom and the kingship are fulfilled in Jesus, but not as a worldly state like that of the other nations. The New Testament Kingdom is a spiritual kingdom, the heavenly Jerusalem, not a political power ruling by military force. God's kingdom comes when God's spirit of loving-kindness and mercy is manifested, in acts of justice and goodness, in healing and faith. God's will for his people was always to establish a community of justice, peace and right worship of the true God, as a city on the hill and a light to the nations. This was the meaning, purpose and condition under which the OT promises were given. It was by the Israelites' insistence and not the will of God that kingship was first established in ancient Israel. This was a falling away from the true vision. But in the words of the prophets and person of Jesus, the image of a king and kingdom became a symbol of the reign of God.

Modern Israel is not the Kingdom. It is another kingdom of Saul, another Maccabean or Herodian state, or just another European colonial garrison state, like South Africa and Algeria used to be. The Jewish people, like the Christian people, are meant to embody the Kingdom of God. But modern Israel is not a light to the nations. The policies of the state of Israel towards the Palestinians are a shame to the Jewish people. Remember the words of Jesus: If your light be darkness, how deep that darkness is.

Christians and Jews (and Muslims) are called to be people of justice, peace and true worship. What a mockery when Christians have such a distorted understanding of Scripture that they think the Word of God mandates and justifies the violent oppression of the poor, the destruction of homes, the theft of land, the building of colonies, the use of torture, indiscriminate violence against unarmed people, an aggressive policy of conquest and occupation. The only sword Jesus used was the sword of the Word. The gospel I was taught had something in it about love even for enemies, about forgiving those who wrong us. If you want a relevant text about the confiscation of the land of the poor and the weak, look up the story of Naboth's vineyard.

These are the issues at the heart of the gospel and the Biblical message. Not fanciful and unfounded speculations about the symbolic texts of prophecy. If we are truly saved and "in Christ" as the gospel of John teaches, then we are to have the mind of Christ, not the mind of Joshua. Interpretations of visionary prophecy cannot exempt us from the central demands of the Biblical message.

Real Christians will stand with both the Palestinians suffering injustice and Israeli victims of suicide bombers, with all people who are the victims of arbitrary power and cruelty.

These are my personal views that are based in my experience in religious communities, Biblical study, and the struggle for peace and human rights. I will be happy to hear your own views at greater length.

Marvin Wingfield
Washington, DC

P.S. I just checked your website and it is obvious that you are not going to agree with what I have to say. I would like to add, however, that, apart from my negative evaluation of "fanciful interpretations of prophecy", I don't think my views above contradict your basic doctrinal formulations. I would agree that a "social gospel" in isolation from the rest of the Biblical message is not the full gospel. Nor is a privatized, ahistorical, and exclusively eschatological message in which the Biblical vision of justice and peace in actual human history and everyday life has no meaningful place. My argument is about what it means to be "separated from the world." The "world" is first and foremost the political, economic and military institutions of the nations. Peace "as the world gives it" was the Pax Romana, the order imposed by military force and coercion, rather than the peace that is the fruit of justice, loving kindness, and the Spirit of God.

Israel, like the U.S. and all other nation-states, is to be evaluated by the extent to which it does or does not embody the Biblical vision for human community. I think that if you chose like Jesus to go out to "the poor and the oppressed of the land of Israel" and began to see the policies of the state of Israel through the eyes of the Palestinian victims of those policies, you might make at least some modification in your viewpoint. I honestly don't see how you, like many others, can consider yourself a Biblical Christian and yet ignore matters which are integral to the Biblical message. In the message of the prophets: "I don't want your burnt offerings, your empty praise. But rather do justice, practice mercy." (I paraphrase.) In the message of Jesus, again in paraphrase: "My Father does not want your doctrinal purity, he wants a compassionate heart. The just man and true 'neighbor' is the Samaritan heretic who binds up the wounds of strangers." Who is the neighbor in Palestine and Israel today? Are you a neighbor to the Palestinians?

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